[cruddasj]

kantu70, on Mar 21 2010, 00:29, said:

Hello there: i´m very happy whit my omnia i900. Is the first phone that aloud me to play, change the ROM and change the digital scream and still working. It´s very comfortable in my pocket and think have the perfect side for a phone. I really like the HTC H2D but it´s very big to me. don´t know if the size of the milestone, but do you recomended?
Tks, and sorry for my bad english

Hey there. I am ssuming that you have felt the HTC HD 2 in your hand now? If so, you can see what I mean about it being a little too big (but props to the phone, it is an jaw dropping device).

If you are happy using android, I would definately reccomend the motorola milestone. If you want, we have one in the office (wireless research is awesome ) I can take some pics with it in size against the omnia if you would like a real feel for the size of it in relation to something you are familiar with. It is quite thin, yet does sport a qwerty. It is also getting the android 2.1 update soon

In short, yes I would reccomend the phone. Out of the android phones I have used it is by far in the lead. The only slight issue I have with it is the keyboard is a little bit cramped, seperated keys would be nice.

As I always reccomend, try the device first before committing to buy it. What I think is cramped, you may think is great! It depends on things, even the size of your fingertips!



Things you wont see straight away:


Good points: 3D graphics are smooth and stable + good WiFi chip, gives a good connection.

Bad points: (This is likely to not apply to you) If you are using a Proxy authentication server at your place of work (which requires you to log in) the phone does not like being assigned a DHCP address. You will have to manually assign it a static IP (you may need to see your network administrator as it could cause an IP conflict) - May see an update to this in future android releases.


Also, developers are split. The Dext (USA) and Milestone (Europe) use different bootloaders. This means that like the omnia (i900 and i910 difference), there will only be ROMs for specific devices. I have no idea what flashing it is like as we have had to keep ours stock.



Apart from those small qualms I would say its a really great phone

jms2367, on Mar 21 2010, 00:37, said:

I'm thinking of getting a new sim free phone myself. I think I don't want another winmo device and am looking at the Samsung Spica. The deal breaker at the moment is I need to root the phone in order to install programs in the storage card (from what I read in which I might be wrong though) and the RAM is only 128Mb.

Hey there. If your looking for an android device, make sure to also check out the milestone. It may sound like im plugging the phone lol (im not honestly, its the first motorola ive ever liked!), but it really is a top quality bit of kit and they seem to have done it right this time.

Is there a particular reason you wish to stick to samsung? The HTC Desire that has just been released looks pretty tasty, but I havnt been able to get my hands on one yet =/

Billus, on Mar 21 2010, 03:06, said:

So ummm, we still talking about Symbian devices or have we all moved on to our Androids, WinMo's and iPhones?

Hey Billus, Im all for symbian phones, but I think they will be fizzling out. Nokia has dropped it and it is now open source. Theyre now pushing out Maemo. For anyone that hasnt tried this yet, it is a derivative of debian (linux). Initial impressions are that it is a very powerful OS but it needs more development for it. Also, it can sometimes be difficult just to do simple tasks :|

For anyone interested or thinking of buying the N900 by nokia, I have also got one at work which I can review for you with pics etc.


Symbian devices I think will be pushed by Sony Ericsson. They seem to like skinning the UI and I cant see them scrapping all of that. If you are looking at symbian devices, here is one big tip:

If you see the Satio and your thinking of buying it.........turn around and walk away. I was really dissapointed with the phone as were my colleagues. So much in fact, that we sent it back to expansys (under the 28 day distance selling regulation) as it was so poor. If I had shelled out £400/500 for it, I would be absolutely gutted. They feel cheap (very light, shiny silver plastic that will chip in a month or so), the screen is nothing special. The only good point is the camera, but you can get a 12MP camera for much less than that piece of crap will cost you.

The only Symbian devices I would reccomend would be the E class nokias. I think nokia will hang onto their symbian setup for a bit (just reprogram drivers etc to suit the device) If you like a straight to the point, business orientated phone, they are quality handsets. (Possibly not the E63, which feels a bit cheap) Some of the later N series are quite nice too actually

You did make a large error in your question though and that was mentioning iPhones. This thread is about 'Phones' not 'Fashion Accessories'. They do not 'Just work' at all, there are bugs in the software (for instance, version 3.0 + firmware cannot connect to a proxy server, it just craps all over itself), you just need to know where to look. It is probably due to inadequate testing. Yes, they have a nice capacitive screen and they are slim but thats all I can say for them. If anyone wishes to argue the toss about them, feel free to propose your questions, but do it in public on this thread, and I will give you a fair answer based on fact rather than my own dislike for them. (Im not an Apple hater, but they shouldnt say their products 'Just work' because none of their products are bug free)


Anyhow, rant over

If you are looking at symbian phones and come across any potential high end candidates, could you post your finds in the thread? Even just the model name and why you think its a good phone? Its nice to have a bit of variety amongst the windows mobile and android scene



Right, time for a sunday afternoon snooze Keep the questions and reccomendations rolling in and 'll do my best to keep answering them


Jay

This post has been edited by cruddasj: 21 March 2010 - 11:41 PM

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[jms2367]

cruddasj, on Mar 21 2010, 20:26, said:

Hey there. If your looking for an android device, make sure to also check out the milestone. It may sound like im plugging the phone lol (im not honestly, its the first motorola ive ever liked!), but it really is a top quality bit of kit and they seem to have done it right this time.

Is there a particular reason you wish to stick to samsung? The HTC Desire that has just been released looks pretty tasty, but I havnt been able to get my hands on one yet =/

actually, the only reason i am looking at the spica is because it is relatively cheap as compared to the milestone and the htc desire which i think are way out of my league. also, motorola has no local support in our country while samsung has very good local support. i am also looking at the htc legend for an android device but i guess since it is an htc, it will have a quite a high price tag also since i buy my phones sim free. android 2.1 is looking good imo.

i am still on the lookout for a second phone since i bought my i900 brand new only last december (when my asus p735 died on me) only to be disappointed since the B7610 came out with an identical price tag last january in the same store where i purchased the omnia. that was a bummer.

This post has been edited by jms2367: 21 March 2010 - 01:30 PM

[kantu70]

Tks Crudassj for answer. The android sistem is a very pretty sistem to me, but I never use it. I see the videos and photos on internet only. To me the iphone have the best graphic interfase and the best screem, but don´t support many programs that I use and i think is a "fashion phone" only. The android is the closest to iphone in the graphical interfase and I think that combines the design of the apple product whit the functionality from the windows phone. As I say, i never used one. Am I wrong? What do you think about this?

[Nicklashidegard]

Thanks for a brilliant review CJ. You're lucky to be able to test phones like that

Personally i quite fancy HTC Nexus one (google) with 3.7-inch AMOLED and a 1GHz snapdragon processor (as in HD2). looks good spec and also running android 2.1. Both ROM and RAM is 512mb (4 times the RAM of omnia). Also i'm looking forward to the release of wm7, but i think those phones will be quite expensive.

At the moment it's only hypothetical as i haven't got the money for it but you can only dream...I think i'll stick with the omnia for another 6 months at least as it's a good phone that does all i want it to do..although it seems a lot of people are upgrading

[ebsbow]

The nexus is an great device. But not being able to run WinMo on it yet is uninteresting.
More-so the developers for Android are really boring people when it comes to running other OS's on 'there'
devices. Especialy WinMo( the evil beast)..

Nonetheless, its an great device, but for me, I will wait till it gets rooted.

[cruddasj]

Nicklashidegard, on Mar 22 2010, 08:02, said:

Thanks for a brilliant review CJ. You're lucky to be able to test phones like that

Personally i quite fancy HTC Nexus one (google) with 3.7-inch AMOLED and a 1GHz snapdragon processor (as in HD2). looks good spec and also running android 2.1. Both ROM and RAM is 512mb (4 times the RAM of omnia). Also i'm looking forward to the release of wm7, but i think those phones will be quite expensive.

At the moment it's only hypothetical as i haven't got the money for it but you can only dream...I think i'll stick with the omnia for another 6 months at least as it's a good phone that does all i want it to do..although it seems a lot of people are upgrading

Hey Nick From what I have heard, the nexus one is pretty much the HD2 in a new chassis but with android instead of winmo, and a slightly smaller screen. Seems like a very nice bit of kit though If you ever manage to get your hands on one (I dont think I will be any time soon ) Let us know what you thought about it on here Ive got kinda mixed feelings about it, it looks great, but I have also heard nightmare stories about it (like every phone really). If theyve managed to fix the problems I would really consider buying one, if your looking for a full touch device.

What do you think on winmo7? Ive not been overly wow'ed by it to be honest. I mean it looks quite cool, but the kernel change will mean everything from below 7 will get scrapped :| However, microsoft only allowing for 1ghz + devices means that the phones will be speedy (although expensive)

Have you tried the emulator yet? You can test out Winmo7 using Visual studio 2010 and a binary you can get hold of on XDA.

Whats the scene like over at omniarom? I havnt been on in ages, are people still sticking with the omnia? or are they upgrading over there too?

[yekxmerr]

Im going to move very soon to HTC HD. Why ? Because omnia isnt what it could be. I love this phone, but im starting to dislike the roms on this thing. It is very buggy, m2d doesnt support landscape, and so on ... Im moving to htc probably, because it has better support on xda, and HTC HD its the phone it fits for me. It has all that omnia have, and more.

One thing, i purchased an housing for my omnia with new touch screen, and let me say this to you, my touch its almost capacitive. You will be mindblowed with a new touchscreen. And i also have the white spot but when i disassembled my omnia it got a bit better. So it isnt all bad, this could be a really good device, but its getting old and people tend to move.

Android is the dream OS, i love it ! But its still too expensive, and alot of their phones are very very ... ugly ! ( Except the nexus ofc, desire and legend )

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