[JasonMania]

Hi all,

I am looking for a good music player for my omnia ii,

I would like it to look good ,
be finger friendly,
able to show artwork properly and large ,
have visualization ,
able to show music based on Genre , Artist , Album ,and etc
has a podcast management tool with it ,
if it could read Audiobooks .m4b format it would be fantastic.
and cloud manage videos as well

I don't mind paying for this software , could somebody give some recommendation ?

thanks in advance.

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[chriswells13]

JasonMania, on Feb 4 2010, 05:14, said:

Hi all,

I am looking for a good music player for my omnia ii,

I would like it to look good ,
be finger friendly,
able to show artwork properly and large ,
have visualization ,
able to show music based on Genre , Artist , Album ,and etc
has a podcast management tool with it ,
if it could read Audiobooks .m4b format it would be fantastic.
and cloud manage videos as well

I don't mind paying for this software , could somebody give some recommendation ?

thanks in advance.

I love Conduit's Pocket Player and it does a lot of what you're looking for. I don't think it has a reader or cloud manages videos. Here's the description from their website:

Pocket Player 4.1 is a rockin' way to enjoy music and video on your Windows Mobile device. Through multiple media and playlist formats, Internet connectivity, plugin extensions, and an intuitive interface, Pocket Player means less taps, more music!


What Makes Pocket Player Different?:

* Full music and video support: MP3, AAC*, M4A*, WMA, WMV, Ogg Vorbis, FLAC, and WAV!
* Protected WMA support, u-Law, A-Law, AU, and ADPCM WAV (used in Voicemail attachments) playback
* Podcast subscriptions* auto-download new content to your device!
* Media Browser menu system, with touch scrolling and gesture support!
* Media Library auto-imports 1000+ tracks with ease, with support for all common metadata tags for all media formats, including lyrics and ratings!
* 10-band Equalizer and Preamp, with presets!
* Universal Plug-and-Play (UPnP): browse and play content from your desktop!
* Internet radio streaming support for Shoutcast (MP3), AAC (including aacPlus, HE-AAC v1, HE-AAC v2), Windows Media (MMS) stations
* Web guide for Internet radio, MP3 blogs and podcasts, with pause, auto-resume and seek functionality!
* Voicemail playback (WAV email attachments), integrates with your Inbox!
* Visualizations and downloadable Album Art support
* Full support for Windows Mobile 5 (Pocket PC and Smartphone), WM6 and Windows Mobile 6.1 compatibility!
* Support for Bluetooth stereo headphones (A2DP), buttons (AVRCP), and mono headsets (Audio Gateway)!
* Skinnable (Pocket Player, WMP, and WinAmp WSZ skins) for all device resolutions with color change ability
* Themed and skinned Today plugin on touchscreen devices
* Reads tags such as ID3 (v1/v1.1/v2), MPEG-4, APE and ASF; scans device in background
* Gapless playback with adjustable crossfading
* Playlist manager, auto-generating smart playlists!
* DSP Plugin support, including time stretch and Bass Boost
* User-managed Bookmarks support; jump to a file and time
* For Podcasts and audio books: bookmarks, "Seek to last position", Auto-resume
* Hardware button mapping, button locking, one-handed navigation, including support for scroll wheels
* Adjustable sleep timer, automatic screen shutoff function

[xaznxplaya]

chriswells13, on Feb 4 2010, 06:48, said:

I love Conduit's Pocket Player and it does a lot of what you're looking for. I don't think it has a reader or cloud manages videos. Here's the description from their website:

Pocket Player 4.1 is a rockin' way to enjoy music and video on your Windows Mobile device. Through multiple media and playlist formats, Internet connectivity, plugin extensions, and an intuitive interface, Pocket Player means less taps, more music!


What Makes Pocket Player Different?:

* Full music and video support: MP3, AAC*, M4A*, WMA, WMV, Ogg Vorbis, FLAC, and WAV!
* Protected WMA support, u-Law, A-Law, AU, and ADPCM WAV (used in Voicemail attachments) playback
* Podcast subscriptions* auto-download new content to your device!
* Media Browser menu system, with touch scrolling and gesture support!
* Media Library auto-imports 1000+ tracks with ease, with support for all common metadata tags for all media formats, including lyrics and ratings!
* 10-band Equalizer and Preamp, with presets!
* Universal Plug-and-Play (UPnP): browse and play content from your desktop!
* Internet radio streaming support for Shoutcast (MP3), AAC (including aacPlus, HE-AAC v1, HE-AAC v2), Windows Media (MMS) stations
* Web guide for Internet radio, MP3 blogs and podcasts, with pause, auto-resume and seek functionality!
* Voicemail playback (WAV email attachments), integrates with your Inbox!
* Visualizations and downloadable Album Art support
* Full support for Windows Mobile 5 (Pocket PC and Smartphone), WM6 and Windows Mobile 6.1 compatibility!
* Support for Bluetooth stereo headphones (A2DP), buttons (AVRCP), and mono headsets (Audio Gateway)!
* Skinnable (Pocket Player, WMP, and WinAmp WSZ skins) for all device resolutions with color change ability
* Themed and skinned Today plugin on touchscreen devices
* Reads tags such as ID3 (v1/v1.1/v2), MPEG-4, APE and ASF; scans device in background
* Gapless playback with adjustable crossfading
* Playlist manager, auto-generating smart playlists!
* DSP Plugin support, including time stretch and Bass Boost
* User-managed Bookmarks support; jump to a file and time
* For Podcasts and audio books: bookmarks, "Seek to last position", Auto-resume
* Hardware button mapping, button locking, one-handed navigation, including support for scroll wheels
* Adjustable sleep timer, automatic screen shutoff function

I'm actually using that one, it's a great music player, although I can't find a way to scroll down the list under a winamp skin.

[tarikvarol]

Thank you. Nice program.

[darkworldzz]

touch player
S2p, free.
kinoma player, crackable..
basically touch player is the best.. plays most formats, subtitle support, wow hd.. couldnt ask for more..

[urphonesux]

the main music apps on my phone in this order are


i forgot slacker at the top of the list
scilors groovemobile
youtube
touch player

This post has been edited by urphonesux: 07 October 2010 - 02:44 PM

[Snow02]

Kinoma play is definitely the best.

[Shiryu]

Check also Nitrogen IMHO it's much better than S2P and Pocket Player (which was to slow as for me).

[Marmach]

I've downloaded Nitrogen yesterday and it's quite cool - it's fast and it has nice UI + equalizer... But unlike Touch Player or LCG Jukebox, sound is turned off when turning Omnia into sleep mode - is there any solution to change it?

Ok now, there's an blank screen option in the main menu...

This post has been edited by Marmach: 09 October 2010 - 02:56 PM

[ray1234]

but is the sound of all these players as good as touchplayer? touchplayer sounds quite good with the clarity filter

[urphonesux]

and with SRSWOW turned on when watching movies

[darkworldzz]

ray1234, on Oct 10 2010, 22:44, said:

but is the sound of all these players as good as touchplayer? touchplayer sounds quite good with the clarity filter

urphonesux, on Oct 11 2010, 01:14, said:

and with SRSWOW turned on when watching movies

which is why touch player is the best for audiophiles like me

[Marmach]

To be honest I don't know how using certain apps might change sound quality. Especially it would be difficult to hear on a "audiophile" sound device like a mobile. Let me quote foobar2000 FAQ as an example:

"Does foobar2000 sound better than other players?

No. Most of “sound quality differences” people “hear” are placebo effect (at least with real music), as actual differences in produced sound data are below their noise floor (1 or 2 last bits in 16bit samples). foobar2000 has sound processing features such as software resampling or 24bit output on new high-end soundcards, but most of the other mainstream players are capable of doing the same by now."

Why not having higher bitrates than use SRS? All those quality retrieval systems are nothing more than equalizers ;P

Of course it doesn't mean the final effect can't be better, though I wound't think of it as hifi sound...

[ray1234]

Marmach, on Oct 12 2010, 00:48, said:

To be honest I don't know how using certain apps might change sound quality. Especially it would be difficult to hear on a "audiophile" sound device like a mobile. Let me quote foobar2000 FAQ as an example:

"Does foobar2000 sound better than other players?

No. Most of “sound quality differences” people “hear” are placebo effect (at least with real music), as actual differences in produced sound data are below their noise floor (1 or 2 last bits in 16bit samples). foobar2000 has sound processing features such as software resampling or 24bit output on new high-end soundcards, but most of the other mainstream players are capable of doing the same by now."

Why not having higher bitrates than use SRS? All those quality retrieval systems are nothing more than equalizers ;P

Of course it doesn't mean the final effect can't be better, though I wound't think of it as hifi sound...

Well theory and practice is always different. Theoretically all players should sound the same, but due to the different methodology of reproducing the sounds, players do sound different, and this is not placebo effect. Should all MP3 players sound the same as they just play the same MP3?

And you probably haven't really owned an i8000 or haven't really used a decent headphone for it, the i8000 is actually quite a decent MP3 player and the sound quality is actually better than a lot of MP3 players in the market. I compared my i8000 with a gen2 ipod mini, which is supposed to be one of the best sounding ipods, the treble of the ipod is still better in terms of more extension, but the bass and mid-tones of the i8000 is very decent indeed compared to the ipod. The current ipods are actually worse sounding than gen2 ipod mini, so I'd guess the i8000 is probably about the same or even better sounding than current iphones/ipods.

Mind you, you have to be careful choosing headphones for i8000. i8000's output is low, so you have to choose a high efficiency headphone. I lot of the higher end headphones are low efficiency, and i8000 won't sound good with that. So, it's a matter of matching, not just buying an expensive one.

This post has been edited by ray1234: 11 October 2010 - 11:11 PM

[Marmach]

Mp3players / phones differ from each other- that's true. But I would rather blame digital to analog converters used during production, not the software differences.

I use SoundMagic PL50 in-ears for my Omnia - they seem to have quite good reviews (though I hate their lack of bass, despite I'm a mid-hi tone fan ) and they say I'm a musician - but it's not the point.

I don't believe in quality of sound on such devices, unless you have really HQ mp3 and really nice hardware inside. Using the "quality retrieval" effects you may get a nice sound for you, but it's definitely not increasing the quality. And the same thing happens when changing audio players - nothing more than some nice effects or equalizers, which some of them have, and other don't...

Unless some of those apps have different file-reading-algorithms-or-whatever, which makes them worse, than others. I don't pretend to have all the needed knowlegde, and I'm definitely not an audiophile (great music doesn't need great quality), but I never believed in 5cm x 5cm hifi on a noisy street

[ray1234]

Marmach, on Oct 13 2010, 01:59, said:

Mp3players / phones differ from each other- that's true. But I would rather blame digital to analog converters used during production, not the software differences.

I use SoundMagic PL50 in-ears for my Omnia - they seem to have quite good reviews (though I hate their lack of bass, despite I'm a mid-hi tone fan ) and they say I'm a musician - but it's not the point.

I don't believe in quality of sound on such devices, unless you have really HQ mp3 and really nice hardware inside. Using the "quality retrieval" effects you may get a nice sound for you, but it's definitely not increasing the quality. And the same thing happens when changing audio players - nothing more than some nice effects or equalizers, which some of them have, and other don't...

Unless some of those apps have different file-reading-algorithms-or-whatever, which makes them worse, than others. I don't pretend to have all the needed knowlegde, and I'm definitely not an audiophile (great music doesn't need great quality), but I never believed in 5cm x 5cm hifi on a noisy street

Actually different apps do use different filters/equalization, so that's why they sound different. Of course, if base on the same algorithms, every player should sound the same on the same machine, but the fact is they use differrent algorithms.

I use SoungMagic headphones too! You should try the PL12, I found those more suited to the i8000 than PL50, at least more balanced in terms of bass/treble.

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