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FTouchSL - kinetic scrolling for i900?
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#41 User is offline   samy.3660 

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Posted 29 May 2009 - 12:38 PM

ok now i got everything in my mind.
From past several weeks after installing Wm6.5 on my omnia i found there is no WM6.5 scrolling and only old samsung scrolling. Actually most people dont know here about the native WM6.5 kinetic scrolling which i have been using on my HTC Touch. Now it makes everything clear, there is some registry setting in Omnia which needs to be changed to WM 6.5. OK

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Posted 29 May 2009 - 12:54 PM

View Postsamy.3660, on May 29 2009, 12:38, said:

ok now i got everything in my mind.
From past several weeks after installing Wm6.5 on my omnia i found there is no WM6.5 scrolling and only old samsung scrolling. Actually most people dont know here about the native WM6.5 kinetic scrolling which i have been using on my HTC Touch. Now it makes everything clear, there is some registry setting in Omnia which needs to be changed to WM 6.5. OK




Its not a registry setting. Its in the driver.

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#43 User is offline   samy.3660 

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Posted 29 May 2009 - 12:58 PM

View PostAdrynalyne, on May 29 2009, 18:24, said:

Its not a registry setting. Its in the driver.


oh well thankyou, we need experts to change the DLL's now, common chefs,cooks,experts.

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#44 User is offline   Rob V 

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Posted 29 May 2009 - 08:01 PM

View PostAdrynalyne, on May 29 2009, 08:27, said:

Mine work fine. I can't help but think that people are enabling it.
I agree. Also, despite kiotu's excellent explanation, I think that some people are talking about WM 6.1 and others about 6.5? So in an attempt to confirm once again - and please tell me if I'm wrong here:

If you are running a WM 6.1 ROM, there is no native WM scrolling at all, so Samsung added its own. That's the one that seems to scroll a line at a time, accompanied by clicking sounds. I don't think it works all that well, especially within tmail (Outlook) to view an HTML email. Under 6.1, installing FTouchSL without enabling it is not an answer - in fact, I think you're left with no touch scrolling at all? If you do purchase and then enable FTouchSL in 6.1, you need to specify exceptions for every program that has its own built-in scrolling (Opera, Resco Explorer, Resco Contacts, etc.) Even after doing all this, you may still be disappointed with the scrolling behavior - I know I was. And I never could get the other features of FTouchSL to work, including the corner hotspots and slide gestures.

If you are running WM 6.5, it's a different story because Microsoft has now added native scrolling within WM. The problem appears to be that the Samsung scrolling is still present in the cooked ROMs. It overrides/conflicts with this new native support and messes everything up. The obvious answer is to remove the Samsung scroller, but it's built right into the system DLLs and there's no registry tweak or other easy way to get rid of it, correct? Almost by accident, some of us discovered that installing FTouchSL on WM 6.5 serves to somehow deactivate the Samsung scroller. You do not want to enable FTouchSL under 6.5 -- just install it. By doing so, you end up using only the nice, smooth (and quiet!) new WM native scrolling. (If you still hear clicking, you're not getting the native scrolling.)

So far, I have yet to flash a cooked 6.5 ROM where I didn't have to also install FTouchSL (without enabling it) in order to gain all the goodness of the new WM scrolling.

One thing still has me confused, however: blazingwolf released his "Rock and Republic" WM6.5 ROM based on the latest 21725 build (http://www.modaco.com/content-page/288389/...wm6-5/page/140/). He was asked if installing FTouchSL was necessary with this ROM, and replied "no, you don't need it". Since it appears that no one has figured out any other way to deactivate the Samsung scroller, how is this possible?

Apologies if I'm missing something obvious here, but I think a lot of us are still trying to understand this whole picture - and smooth finger-friendly scrolling is one of the big attractions of 6.5 vs. 6.1! <_<

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Posted 29 May 2009 - 10:25 PM

View PostRob V, on May 29 2009, 16:01, said:

One thing still has me confused, however: blazingwolf released his "Rock and Republic" WM6.5 ROM based on the latest 21725 build (http://www.modaco.com/content-page/288389/...wm6-5/page/140/). He was asked if installing FTouchSL was necessary with this ROM, and replied "no, you don't need it". Since it appears that no one has figured out any other way to deactivate the Samsung scroller, how is this possible?

Apologies if I'm missing something obvious here, but I think a lot of us are still trying to understand this whole picture - and smooth finger-friendly scrolling is one of the big attractions of 6.5 vs. 6.1! <_<


I said no because he asked about touch sensitivity not for scrolling. Also, you don't technically need it for scrolling. I understand that you don't like the way it scrolls and the noise but the fact is you do not need FTouchSL to have touch scrolling.

Someone a lot smarter then me is going to have to spend quality time with dlls to get the scrolling Samsung made removed.

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Posted 29 May 2009 - 10:34 PM

i may be showing my ignorance here.... but will FTouchSL work on a Verizon Omnia i910 with WoZZers 6.5 ROM?

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Posted 02 June 2009 - 11:57 AM

View PostRob V, on May 30 2009, 06:01, said:

So far, I have yet to flash a cooked 6.5 ROM where I didn't have to also install FTouchSL (without enabling it) in order to gain all the goodness of the new WM scrolling.


I have flashed my Omnia with Khuanchai's latest ROM and i found that somehow his roms do not have the Samsung Scrolling. . . Everyother rom i have tried has it though and its ver annoying <_<

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