[Paulplex]

http://www1.orange.co.uk/IM/?WT.mc_id=ConM...ource=Automedon

According to Orange - who kindly remove the Live Messenger application from the TyTN II ROM with their crappy customisations - you can now get a free trial until June 2008 of their 'Orange Messenger' application: after June however, you have to pay for the messages you want to send and receive.

Now, I know from my old SPV M3100 (the original TyTN) that - with a generic ROM that includes Messenger - you can send and receive messages at no cost at all (bar your network connection that is) - so what gives Orange the right to charge for something that should be not only already on the phone when you get it, but should also be free to use too?

...I will eventually install a new ROM to my phone since Orange fill theirs with bloatware - however, can anyone recommend a good IM client that works with Windows Messenger and is also free? Damned if Orange are getting any more of my money for something that shouldn't cost...

This post has been edited by Paulplex: 02 May 2008 - 01:55 PM

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Paulplex, on May 2 2008, 14:55, said:

http://www1.orange.co.uk/IM/?WT.mc_id=ConM...ource=Automedon

According to Orange - who kindly remove the Live Messenger application from the TyTN II ROM with their crappy customisations - you can now get a free trial until June 2008 of their 'Orange Messenger' application: after June however, you have to pay for the messages you want to send and receive.

Now, I know from my old SPV M3100 (the original TyTN) that - with a generic ROM that includes Messenger - you can send and receive messages at no cost at all (bar your network connection that is) - so what gives Orange the right to charge for something that should be not only already on the phone when you get it, but should also be free to use too?

...I will eventually install a new ROM to my phone since Orange fill theirs with bloatware - however, can anyone recommend a good IM client that works with Windows Messenger and is also free? Damned if Orange are getting any more of my money for something that shouldn't cost...

5p for a message? £1 a day or £4 a month??? I think the phrase " 'aving a larf " applies here. Come now Orange, do you seriously expect people to pay for this?

[andrewkeith5]

of course theres a free wlm client for windows mobile. just doenload the one that should be on the phone when you get it from xda-developers

[Webreaper]

Just get a copy of Palringo. Free, and does MSN, GTalk, etc.

[shootydogthing]

XDA Devs does the Live! program that Orange removed, like the poster above said

[Webreaper]

Yeah, but my point is that Live sucks, whereas Palringo gives everything Live does, plus more.

[shootydogthing]

I couldn't get palringo to work when i tried, and all I really need is Live

and in my experience it doesn't suck

[Confucious]

You could just download it from Microsoft at http://messengergonemobile.com/ .....

[shootydogthing]

Confucious, on May 2 2008, 16:49, said:

You could just download it from Microsoft at http://messengergonemobile.com/ .....

No, you can't. the windows mobile section of that site just says "if you can't find Messenger in your programs folder you can still use it in Internet Explorer.


So no go, I'm afraid

[Confucious]

So it does!
Just download it from xda then - or preferably downoad a whole ROM from there and get rid of all of O's cr*p!

[shootydogthing]

Agreed. Get 6.1 while you're at it.

[Syphon Filter]

Me: *LAUGHS* You're a pistol, you're really funny. You're really funny.

Orange: What do you mean I'm funny?

Me: It's funny, you know. It's a good story, it's funny, you're a funny guy.*LAUGHS*

Orange: what do you mean, you mean the way I talk? What?

Me: It's just, you know. You're just funny, it's... funny, the way you tell the story and everything.

Orange: [it becomes quiet] Funny how? What's funny about it?

Random Other: Orange no, You got it all wrong.

Orange: Oh, oh. He's a big boy, he knows what he said. What did ya say? Funny how?

Me: Jus...

Orange: What?

Me: Just... ya know... you're funny.

Orange: You mean, let me understand this cause, ya know maybe it's me, I'm a little ****** up maybe, but I'm funny how, I mean funny like I'm a clown, I amuse you? I make you laugh, I'm here to ****** amuse you? What do you mean funny, funny how? How am I funny?

Me: Just... you know, how you tell the story, what?

Orange: No, no, I don't know, you said it. How do I know? You said I'm funny. How the **** am I funny, what the **** is so funny about me? Tell me, tell me what's funny!

Me: [long pause] Get the **** out of here, Orange!

Orange: [everyone laughs] Ya ***********! I almost had him, I almost had him. Ya stuttering ***** ya. Frankie, was he shaking? I wonder about you sometimes. You may fold under questioning.


I think that about sums it up.

[leonxki]

Ahahahha! Excellent!
Finally my O contract is over.

[Shuflie]

Chances are that you will find that downloading the messenger app., or a full rom, won't do you any good. Messenger uses a specific port(s) to sent and receive on so O can either block or monitor the port and you'll either not be able to use it or they'll charge you anyway.

[PaulOBrien]

There are, of course, ways around that...

P

[hotphil]

Oh dear. Orange just don't get it do they? Their business plan of getting people to use dozens of individual pay-per-use applications is flawed.

[Dark Horse]

Blimey, if Orange honestly believe this will take off, they're even more stupid than Bottler Brown and his gang of thieving scumbags.

[Syphon Filter]

hotphil, on May 3 2008, 09:15, said:

Oh dear. Orange just don't get it do they? Their business plan of getting people to use dozens of individual pay-per-use applications is flawed.

Mainly because people wont!!

T-Mobile will be waiting with open arms now, just as they were when Flext and WnW first came out (which is when I made the jump).

[Paulplex]

Woo - I've just realised that my post made it to the front page as a news story: thanks Paul!

...oh, and thanks for the advice about my messenger alternatives - much appreciated

[shootydogthing]

...Christ, just saw an ad for this in my MSN window. They're making it look like it was something brand new and never done before.

We really should try and spread the word about the free alternatives so people aren't ripped off.

This post has been edited by shootydogthing: 03 May 2008 - 05:10 PM

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