[PaulOBrien]

ghozd - it's yours, PM me your address

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[mwright]

Paul (MVP), on Apr 25 2008, 18:32, said:

ghozd - it's yours, PM me your address

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Oh - are there any more available please? I have been trying to get back into development but still lack the tools.

This post has been edited by mwright: 25 April 2008 - 09:28 PM

[chucky.egg]

Popfly sounds cool. I'll give it a go.
How does it work though - presumably a copy of the source is made and edited by other people, otherwise somebody could knacker your app!

[Rolandhurt01]

I've joined poplfly. I've been interested in learning to develop, perticularly for WM for sometime but all the online resources seem to technical for the newbie. This could lead to some good new apps being developed as Modaco Popfly members would be able to look at the source code for apps and learn the internals of WM apps.

My Popfly account is Rolandh25

Roland

[encece]

Liking where this is going. My iPhone life has been short and coming to an end (after June update). Maybe I should finally install windows on my mac and continue my WMDev Training!

Paul and Mono were giving away copies of VS2005 in past Podcasts...should give them a listen to see if they do it again!

Anywho....all exciting developments.

[chucky.egg]

Just got it installed, added Paul and Roland

My Popfly user is ChuckyEgg

[lunatik]

If this is an open source project why not use Visual Studio Express?

It is free for download at:
http://www.microsoft...press/download/

[PaulOBrien]

VS Express doesn't support Mobile development.

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[gerryr]

I'm trying to get into development (loved it in college but veered off towardes IT support) but haven't a clue where to start (not even whether to concentrate on web based dev or more program based, never mind what languages!)

I have a copy of VS5 and have just installed popfly, maybe looking at some working code will help (any other suggestions on where to start greatfully received)!

username:

gerryRdotcom (why dont user names accept dots "." ??)

[chucky.egg]

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I'm trying to get into development (loved it in college but veered off towardes IT support) but haven't a clue where to start (not even whether to concentrate on web based dev or more program based, never mind what languages!)

I have a copy of VS5 and have just installed popfly, maybe looking at some working code will help (any other suggestions on where to start greatfully received)!

I'd say web-based development personally (I'm looking for a new job and every 3rd advert is for web developers). I suspect many of the skills transfer across quite easily, if you're looking C# for Windows and C# for web that is.

I plumped for C# in the end because:
1. I'm lazy, and it seemed like the least effort (from an out-of-date VB background)
2. There's a ton of sample code, especially for WM
3. Er, that's it really. I didn't give it a whole lot of thought!

I started this thread a while back about getting started with C#.

[gerryr]

chucky.egg, on May 6 2008, 11:02, said:

I'd say web-based development personally (I'm looking for a new job and every 3rd advert is for web developers). I suspect many of the skills transfer across quite easily, if you're looking C# for Windows and C# for web that is.

I plumped for C# in the end because:
1. I'm lazy, and it seemed like the least effort (from an out-of-date VB background)
2. There's a ton of sample code, especially for WM
3. Er, that's it really. I didn't give it a whole lot of thought!

I started this thread a while back about getting started with C#.

Thanks for the info/links chucky.egg

Too many bloody options out there! and conflicting views on them all! (as your other post demonstrated)

Head ...... Going ...... To ...... Explode!!

[gerryr]

Btw, I forgot to ask, how's the programming going for you chucky?

[chucky.egg]

It's good. C# was really easy to pick up (or, to be precise, "to pick up well enough to write Nested Tasks")
I'm starting to spec a couple of other apps that I'd like, and might post some samples of my own in Popfly in future

[gerryr]

chucky.egg, on May 6 2008, 12:23, said:

It's good. C# was really easy to pick up (or, to be precise, "to pick up well enough to write Nested Tasks")
I'm starting to spec a couple of other apps that I'd like, and might post some samples of my own in Popfly in future

Nice work m8! Very encouraging!

I have an idea for a very simple app I might try myself. I'm veering towards VB.net as I have some (re: a tiny bit) of experience with VBScript (que: someone to tell me there's zero simalarities between VBScript and VB.net

[chucky.egg]

I've done loads of VBscript myself.
The core language is the same, but IME scripts tend to be more linear whereas Windows, WM and Web apps tend to be more event driven.

I'd never seen C# before, and had a VBscript and VBA background, but the transition was not painful.

There was only one thing that I got really stuck on (to the point of considering giving up) and that was because of an inconsistency in MS's naming conventions and unhelpful help. Pocket Outlook Tasks have a unique ID - in the Task collection it's "OID" but in the Task items themselves the same field is called "ItemID". Go figure.

[gerryr]

Stupid question but is there much of a diff between c# and c++ or is one just an updated version of the other?

[chucky.egg]

Good question actually, I never knew how they all relate...

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C# is a cocktail of Java, C, C++ and Delphi/C++ Builder

http://www.developer...o.uk/show/1743/

[adamz]

I really like this idea, but I'm not a developer.

However, I would like to propose the open-source development of a new program for Windows Mobile theme changing.

As posted here and here...
Many ROM cookers on Xda-Developers will create their own themes that are implemented across a variety of included applications. Unfortunately, themes for third party applications cannot be defined or changed from within Windows Mobile’s native “Today” Control Panel Appearance tab. There are completely different methods of changing the Today screen theme, Media Player theme, and Phone dialer theme. Then if you’ve got some HTC applications in your ROM, there are yet other methods of changing the HTC Home Plug-in theme, TouchFLO Cube theme, Comm Manager theme, SIP keyboard themes, etc. The possibilities are endless.

I would like to propose a standard unified way of changing the look on all of these applications as well as future applications.

The program could be similar to the HTC Home Customizer where users would select named themes to be applied to specific programs, and the software would copy the proper images/files to the proper locations. The difference would be that there would need to be a way for users and 3rd party developers to interface with the program in order to let it know where its new theme files are supposed to go. Maybe there’s a master XML file that lists application specific XML files which include image/file location information.

Anyway, I think this type of program would be extremely useful both for power users and beginners who want to easily customize the look of their device and apply different themes to their applications from a central location. However, I’m not much of a programmer at all, so I am seeking help from the community.
I’ve started a project on Popfly called “WM6ProThemeChanger”. If you search for that name using the Popfly explorer, you’ll find it. Also, you can add me as a friend using “Adamz1977”.

Does anyone else out there think this would be a good idea?

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