[Confucious]

What sort of TV do you get on it in the UK? Is it "normal" FTA digital TV or just special channels? Can you get subscription channels? And what's reception like in real life - any idea?

Thanks

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[w411y]

That TV button looks like a nasty tumour Is there some sort of reciever in there or something?
It's a nice design except that wierd bulge

[Monolithix]

I'd imagine the "bulge" probably incorporates the antenna.

What does the new camera have over the old ones Paul?

[bongo_king]

w411y, on Jun 26 2006, 10:50, said:

That TV button looks like a nasty tumour Is there some sort of reciever in there or something?
It's a nice design except that wierd bulge

Yeah, it's a bit of a mutant - As for the practicalities, does this pick up the same signals as a digi-box then? Anyone got the tech-how to answer? If you can just walk around picking up TV from the ether, then this is a killer, but if you are locked into a (mobile) network to broadcast DAB-IP, I can see it being metered and just way too expensive

[Thumper Net]

Although tv would be cool it will be a bit worthless in europe as all the sevices need a smartcard , in holland for example there is only nederland 2 free to view, not really a channel to want to get a phone with a bulge and looking at freeview all the good channels are encoded also with a smartcard

[Confucious]

you can get all the BBC and ITV channels on freeview in the UK so it's not to bad - IF you can get them on this phone. If it is just stuff broadcast by the network then it's probably going to be an expensive novelty.

[awarner]

Between this and the Forseer, the Forseer gets my vote as landscape is my prefered viewing option for TV etc. Also the NVIDIA graphics are tempting.
Also keep the chargeer handy as you are probably looking at 3hrs viewing time going by reports I have read.

[Confucious]

Is that so you can see all the gory details of your ankle injury when it's shown Ash?

[sporkguy]

I'm digging the vibrant red colour, but I'm not liking the design - a bit too ugh for me.
The Nokia N-series TV phone looks quite delectable though

[PaulOBrien]

DVB-H rather than normal terrestrial...

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[Confucious]

So what does that mean then Paul? Will uou only be able to receive channels provided by your phone co?

[PaulOBrien]

I think so, yeah...?

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[PaulOBrien]

For a few more details see:

http://news.bbc.co.u...ogy/4711974.stm

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[Swampie]

Confucious, on Jun 26 2006, 13:19, said:

So what does that mean then Paul? Will uou only be able to receive channels provided by your phone co?

Digital TV comes in a number of flavours. DVB-T (terrestrial - what Freeview uses). DVB-S (sateliite). DVB-C (cable) and DVB-H (handheld). For each, the transmission method and the encoding etc is different. You can't receive digital terrestrial signals on a satellite box, and you can't receive satellite on a cable box. Similarly you can't receive DVB-T on a DVB-H device.

I understand that when the analogue signal is turned off, the government wants to sell off some of the frequency spectrum freed up. In fact, this is WHY they're going for a analogue switch off, to sell the spectrum and make some money. Apparently, one of the planned sales is to use some of the spectrum for handheld TV, although there are other ways of receiving digital TV to handheld devices other than DVB-H.

[Confucious]

Thanks for that Paul and Swampie.
I'm sure someone is willing to pay £8/month for the crumbs they'll throw us but I can't see that it's wotrth more than I pay for unlimited data! In fact I doubt if I'd use it at all - if it was free, maybe but don't watch much TV anyway.

They obviously think they can make money at it though, so I'll probably be proved wrong.

[PaulOBrien]

So WM5 AKU2, but running on the old Typhoon-style OMAP 750, rather than the newer OMAP 850 platform...

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[pd.ryder]

Sky Movies are now allowing downloads to subscribers over broadband (anyone know what format they're using?) so if the idea of unlimited data takes off, would this type of arrangement work via 3G?

[Confucious]

Don't know what format they're using (I'll check) but they are encripted and only last for a month. Someone would have to encode them for handheld screens and it would probably be more effort than it's worth to them - but you never know.

[MARKUKCOUK]

This phone receives signals like a DAB Radio does.

The TV channels are carried on space on the national commercial digital radio multiplex "Digital-1"

Stations on this mux include Virgin Radio, oneword, Core, Capital Life, talksport and Planet Rock.

These are apparently receivable along with the TV channels being broadband by I believe BT.

I'm not sure if its possible to recieved DAB radio channels on other multiplexes.

[Crispy]

Ok, I think I'll join the crowd in saying that this phone really has a very strange design... I mean, its starting to look like that (supposingly) "stylish" line of phone Nokia has... Someone, pull the emergency break, please...

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